Back to Podcasts Lessons Learned from an Unprecedented Transition Presidential transitions are always a difficult process, but the 2020–21 transfer of power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden was particularly arduous due to a combination of crises facing the country. This included the COVID-19 pandemic, an economic downturn, a nationwide reckoning on race, the outgoing president’s unwillingness to accept the election results and the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. In this week’s episode, former Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-DE, former Gov. Chris Christie, R-NJ, and Stanford law professor Anne Joseph O’Connell join PBS NewsHour anchor and managing editor Judy Woodruff for a conversation about lessons learned from this challenging transition. Valerie Smith Boyd, director of the Center for Presidential Transition, joins co-hosts Loren DeJonge Schulman and Rachel Klein-Kircher to provide context on our new report analyzing the Trump-to-Biden handoff. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.